“A Postscript on Caveats, Courtesy of David Rogers”
August 29, 2007
Recently, I wrote a seven-part series called “Issues Inside and Outside the Baptist Faith and Message 2000.” After I laid out my series conclusions, I received a kind comment from David Rogers, which I will cite below.
But, before doing so, I am going to reproduce the final part of the conclusions from the BFM2000 series (in which I also focused on the progression from the 1925 and 1963 versions, to the 2000 reworking):
“Where only a generation ago, the BFM was considered–at least for the most part–a ’still life picture,’ if you will, it is now anything but. Please carefully ponder the following descriptions of what the BFM2000 has become in the era of increasing Conservative Resurgence (CR) control of the SBC:
1) It is both the voted-in official SBC doctrinal statement and a quasi-negotiated political document that had to face the realities of what the mood of the Convention would tolerate. In other words, if the CR moguls had thought they had the votes to pass BFM2000 with everything they are currently trying to get in the side door by their entity trustees ‘covert ops’ campaign, they most certainly would have put that up for a vote also.
2) It is also both a past-present and a present-future document. The past-present angle deals with the continuity (similarity) and discontinuity (differences) of the current BFM with past statements. The present-future angle has to with being a present tense ’snapshot’ of our belief structure, at the same time that it is a moving picture (video) of how SBC doctrine is alive, ever in the process of changing, even if almost imperceptibly, as we move toward the future. (I think this last part explains how the same people who were deliriously happy at the new more conservative BFM back in 2000 do not think it is narrow enough just seven years later.)
3) It is at once a descriptive and a prescriptive document. In one respect, it is a detailed description of what the SBC has come to believe and voted into its authoritative place. But, it is also a less than subtle attempt to be a leading indicator/influence (i.e., prescription) in either wooing or strong-arming some who opposed or voted against it to come around and embrace the areas with which they disagreed in 2000.”
But, the most helpful analogy of what the BFM2000 has morphed into in the hands of the CR is found in my closing analogy from that post (which was hardly original, but which I developed further):
For about the first century and a half of its existence, the Constitution of the United States was viewed as a static document, to be interpreted by a ’strict constructionist’ approach. But, with the appointment of a majority of justices who took an activist approach to Constitutional law, heavily utilizing precedent and interpreting key wording as what it could be stretched to mean, not what the authors/framers intended it to mean, things changed dramatically. And, realistically, the legal landscape of the United States may never recover from the impact of those highly unfortunate–and uncalled for–changes in perspective and hermeneutics.
Question: Is there a nickel’s worth of difference attitudinally and hermenentically with this tragic example of American Constititutional law in the way certain CR reads in their desired meaning to baptism being a ‘church ordinance?’ How about when their ‘covert ops’ campaign creates doctrinal ‘precedent’ beyond the BFM2000 in our missions agencies and one of our seminaries?
Answer: Honestly, not that I can tell. Both are stories of a small group of activists finding a brilliant, initially low-profile means to get their way (and, of course, ‘the end justifies the means’ only when it is their end and their means.)
Now, in the light of these conclusions, let’s address David Rogers’ stated area of concern: “… discrepancies between written and duly approved points of doctrine included in the BFM, and wide-spread divergence of belief and practice among the same constituency on the same points (i.e., ‘closed communion’).”
Then, his attached question was: “Is this just an anomaly in the system that should be ‘winked at?’ Should I, as an IMB missionary, who accepts all of the BFM 2000, with the only exception being the ‘closed communion’ clause, continue to serve with a good conscience as a denominational employee? Why or why not?”
David, this is an excellent question! If I understand you correctly, your frustration has to do with the fact that, no matter what the BFM2000 says, the SBC at large seems, if anything, at least as diverse as ever in both belief and practice. That makes you wonder if anybody really completely adheres to the BFM2000 on a comprehensive point-by-point basis.
Well, David, allow me to start this part of the discussion with the day after the current BFM statement was passed in 2000. At that point, Al Mohler, representing the BFM2000 committee, referred to it as a “regulative document” for all entity personnel to affirm. So, it was certainly intended to be affirmed jot and tittle, apparently to ferret out any remaining Moderates still squatting in the weeds, so to speak.
But, there is another side to the story: What was trumpeted by Mohler and what actually happens are two significantly different things. For example, after a careful study of the BFM2000 alongside the Abstract of Principles, I simply do not see how a person can affirm certain things in both documents at the same time with a straight face.
Here’s one of the classic “points of tension” (to put it mildly). The Abstract reads: … [Adam's] posterity inherit a nature corrupt and wholly opposed to God and His law… .” By contrast, the BFM2000 reads: “… [Adam's] posterity inherit a nature and an environment inclined toward sin… .”
Boys and Girls, if you check it out in historical theology, the wording in the Abstract is a fairly standard Calvinistic way of expressing human depravity. However, the wording in the BFM2000 definitely leans heavily in the Arminian direction. The point here is that you can’t logically hold both a Calvinist and (an at least semi-)Arminian position on unsaved human nature at the same time. But, that is the illogical mess that the CR leaders created in 2000, when it was insisted that the faculties at Southern (where Al Mohler is) and Southeastern (where Paige Patterson was) affirm both.
David, what that tells me is that a whole lot of Southern Baptists still don’t take the BFM2000 (or the combination of the current BFM and the Abstract at two of our seminaries) seriously in terms of a word-for-word affirmation. That means they are, to one extent or another–to use your wording–”winking at” the SBC doctrinal statement. But, to your credit, you are trying very hard to do so with integrity, which I strongly commend.
One more illustration of the widespread “winking at” the BFM2000. In the “Peace and War” article, the following wording is found, repeated word-for word from the BFM1963: “In accordance with the spirit and teachings of Christ [Christians] should do all in their power to put an end to war.” At first glance, you have to admit that this really looks bad for the SBC leaders who have been in bed with the current Republican administration in regard to the war in Iraq, in terms of affirming one thing in regard to the BFM and then saying/doing something very different.
But, in order to stand by the crucial hermeneutical principle of “authorial intent,” since the wording in BFM2000 was unchanged from BFM1963, I went to Herschel Hobbs’ book, The Baptist Faith and Message (Convention Press, 1981 ed.) to see what the committee chair of that version of the BFM said on this subject. I was surprised to read that Hobbs could get a “just war” understanding (see pp. 135-37) out of the wording “the spirit and teaching of Christ,” but he did.
Of course, even if much of what has happened since 9/11 does fit within a legitimate “just war” framework, it would appear that an even-handed application of the wording of the BFM2000 “Peace and War” article would require SBC leaders to at least ask the Bush administration very serious questions after the purported reason for the invasion of Iraq (i.e., weapons of mass destruction) proved empty, as well as when no direct link between Saddam and Bin Laden was ever established. And, if you try to use the excuse “It’s an Arab country in which there were many sympathetic to Muslim terrorists,” I have some very bad news to break to you. The United States of America has a rapidly increasing Arab population, not a few of which are sympathetic to Muslim terrorists. So, should we attack ourselves?
Now, let me hasten to say that I am a very conservative Republican. But, surely you get the point. Unthinking support of a war like this is not only short-sighted, but very much “walking on thin ice” in regard to the BFM2000. You might even say that some among us appear to be ”winking at” the BFM2000 in this area.
In closing, let me finally get to the one issue you brought up as being your personal caveat: the BFM2000 view on the Lord’s Supper. The reason I didn’t repeat your wording “closed communion” is because that is not what the BFM2000 teaches.
How do I know that? Again, to respect “authorial intent,” our current understanding must square with what the original author(s) meant. Again, the BFM2000 did not change the wording in that section from the BFM1963 (and thus forfeited their right to claim a different interpretation).
Here’s what Herschel Hobbs said about communion: “Some Baptist churches hold that one should be a member of the church in which he partakes of [the Lord's Supper]… . Most Baptist churches hold that any member of any Baptist church is eligible” (p. 90). And, since Hobbs rejects “the charge that Baptists are ‘closed communionists,’” that seals the point that the current wording of the BFM does not teach “closed communion.” Thus, those who claim that the BFM2000 is teaching “closed communion” are simply reading it into the text (i.e., eisegesis) or stretching the words to what they can be made to mean, a la the Supreme Court analogy I referred to above.
Now, David, this still might not be much comfort, given that I’ve read on your blog that you hold to a ‘modified open’ understanding of the Lord’s Table. But, it does change the overall discussion on “caveats” in regard to the BFM2000 considerably.
What do I mean? Well, all those highly opinionated people among us who have claimed that the BFM2000 teaches “closed communion” are dead wrong–Herschel Hobbs ended the discussion. So, now, that means that extensive group has only two legitimate choices in front of them. If they are honest, they will either: 1) change their position from closed communion to the actual BFM2000 position (to be able to affirm the BFM2000 wholly); or 2) they will freely admit that they have a “caveat” in regard to what BFM2000 teaches about communion.
Of course, there is that other not so legitimate, but, as we have seen, still very widespread, option exercised by a lot of folks in the SBC. They can just “wink at” the discrepancy and act like it’s not there. Selah and Amen.
Coming Friday: “Fridays are for… Newspaper Articles” (my weekly local column)
Coming Monday: The Holy Spirit… (X): “The Flesh vs. the Spirit–It’s Our Choice”
I and others like Tom Ascol have noted similar things as well. For example, the article on regeneration, if we trace it’s history properly, is to be construed in Calvinist categories; the Reformed ordu salutis is in view, but we all know how popular that is in the SBC right now.
So, what we have is the BFM2K being interpreted the way the Supreme Courts more liberal members interpret the US Constitution. Most of us decry that, but then some of us are comfortable doing it with the BFM.
Now that I’ve said that, I do, from time to time listen to sermons from some of our more well known CR luminaries, and I have observed at times that “authorial intent” goes out the door with Scripture too. Nobody is perfect, but some of the sermons I heard are horrible in that regard, what Dr. Joel Gregory in his preaching class used to call “diving board” sermons, where they pick a text then dive off into the deep end. Authorial intent is jettisoned for whatever they want to say.
But we live in a Post-Modern world, and that’s the way things are done. Now, I’m not calling folks “POMO’s,” but I do think that it’s rather ironic that the defenders of inerrancy and those who I would hope would make every attempt to exposit texts of Scripture within context and authorial intent, do it often very freely with the BFM, and, ironically Scripture too boot.
Again, what sort of example does this set for the people in the pews?
Gene,
My brother, you have definitely “stopped preaching and started meddling” with this comment! What a horrifying example of inconsistency: the very CR leaders who touted inerrancy so strongly playing fast and loose with the inerrant Word in their preaching!
Forgive my sarcasm! You are exactly right. And, when you see examples like this that take the God-breathed Word so lightly in its interpretation (which is rooted in authorial intent), it really does make you wonder if biblical inerrancy really was no more than a “political platform” for some of those men–a slogan or a shibboleth.
You are insightful, my brother!
Boyd
Boyd,
Thank you for your thoughtful comments in response to my question. It seems to me that you deal with the root issue correctly in pointing out the general lack of consistency in the way the BFM has been used.
Regarding the specific question on the Lord´s Supper, I think that different understandings of the terms “closed communion” and “close communion” often causes a bit of confusion. In any case, it seems you correctly observe that my “modified open communion” position does not completely square with the actual wording of the BFM.
At the same time, I have a strong hunch that the vast majority of Southern Baptists, if they were to really understand what I believe on this issue, would not vote for me being disqualified as an IMB missionary for my beliefs.
Personally, my guess is that many, if not most trustees, recognize this to be the case, and, as a result, are not eager to make a big deal about it. I think that, given the current situation, and the complication of passing another text of the BFM that would correct this anomaly, this is probably the wisest course of action.
It would be a shame if the strict interpretationist crowd does not recognize this, and proceeds to force a show-down on this issue.
I guess it would perhaps be easiest for me to just be quiet, and not make a public fuss about this. But, my conscience would then demand me to not address other issues that I think are important as well. I prefer to be open and forthright, hold to my convictions on what I understand Scripture to teach, and be prepared to face the consequences, if they come.
David,
Please know that I respect you immensely. And, while it might have detracted from what I was trying to accomplish in this piece for me to say so, allow me to share with you now that I too am modified-open in my belief, and our church practice where I pastor.
As I see it biblically, in the days before church membership and long, detailed theological statements, traveling missionaries (and other believers), when they gathered on the Lord’s Day, if the Lord’s Supper was observed, would have checked out whether the visitor was a believer–and possibly whether orthodox on a few of the most central doctrinal areas–and, if they were, let them participate with no hindrance. If we claim to be “biblical” in our practica (i.e., actually applying the inerrant Word), how can we do otherwise? To do otherwise, it seems to me, is to theologically nit-pick way beyond the weight the Scriptures will bear.
Thank you for your gracious comment! The Lord bless your involvement in sbcIMPACT!
Boyd
Boyd,
What is your opinion on why the BFM statement was brought up and voted on in SA? Was it truly to curb the covert ops/side door additions by SBC entities or is there another motive underfoot?
Morris
Morris,
I did not come up with the motion, make it (although my close friend, Rick Garner, did, but before I got to the meeting and knew what happened) or speak to the motion (though I was standing at the microphone preparing to do so when Pres. Page called time on the debate). However, I was privy to after the fact discussions with those who did conceive the idea of what is now known as the Garner BFM2000 Motion. It was definitely an attempt to curb the ‘covert ops’ of the entity trustees, the same motive as why I had made a similar motion in Greensboro in 2006. And, if the ‘authorial intent’ of the motion, including what Morris Chapman had laid out as what the Exec. Committee thought was appropriate application from their Feb., 2007 action related to my 2006 motion, would be carried out, it would stop–or at least have a way of holding accountable–those currently unaccountable (even though the SBC Bylaws say they’re supposed to be accountable) trustee shenanigans.
Thanks very much for your comment/question,
Boyd
Boyd,
Personally, and pastorally, I treat the BFM2000 with the same regard as any other statement of faith, such as the Westminster Confession. It is a statement of faith that generally expresses what I believe but not one that I am beholden to or subservient to. Of course, I have the freedom to excercise such beliefs as a pastor of an autonomous SBC church, but it would get trickier for a missionary or employee of the SBC. However, I would choose historic baptist principles over blind allegience to the BFM2000.
Todd Pylant
Todd,
I think there are many thoughtful Southern Baptists who share your perspective. However, in looking at things through David Rogers’ eyes, he doesn’t have that privilege.
Thank you, as always, for your careful thoughts,
Boyd
Brother Boyd,
My friend Steve Hays has said something that you might find of interest here:
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/08/kerussocharis.html
Here’s the “money quote” -
Since communion is a covenant sign, the only communicants should (ideally) be members of the covenant community. It would therefore be wrong for a pastor to knowingly administer communion to an open unbeliever.
However, one can easily get carried away with policing the communion rail. Various denominations begin to practice closed communion, as if each denomination held the patent to the Lord’s Supper.
And some of them become so petrified at the prospect of administering communion to the wrong person that they rarely perform communion, and put members through a screening process every time communion is scheduled. The pastor has to interview every member and issue a communion token to show that this member is preapproved to partake of communion.
All of this is well-intentioned, but it’s also an exercise in control-freakery. An otherwise valid principle as been overrefined to the point of absurdity, under the assumption that it’s better if no one rightly takes communion for fear one person will slip through the barricade and wrongly take communion.
It also assumes a very paternalistic polity, in which the elders are the official grown-ups while the laity is reduced to the status of perpetual minors, in a state of diminished responsibility. The laity is no longer answerable for its actions. Rather, laymen are kept under curfew. They can only go outside with an ecclesiastical chaperon to escort them and keep them out of trouble.
Yet the true job of pastors is to equip the laity, and not to keep them under house arrest. Not only does this attitude keep the laity in a state of arrested spiritual and intellectual development, but it also has a corrupting influence on the clergy, for the clergy are by no means impeccable or infallible. Accountability is a two-way street.
—–
Allow me (Gene) to comment…
I’ve not thought about that before, and I would personally say that I think this is precisely why God inspired Paul to say that it is the individual at the Lord’s Table who should examine himself – not the elders examining the people. If you and your elders are doing your job, they should be equipped to examine themselves – and that includes any Presbyterians or Methodists who are there visiting. Assuming they are believers, the Holy Spirit will convict them of their sins when the get to the Table, including their baptism. If they aren’t under conviction and they believe they are in the right (though we’d certainly differ) then it isn’t your job to keep them from the Lord’s Table. The rest of the issues Paul deals with in the Corinthian letter are things the congregation should know anyway, via proper discipline. (I’d add that most Presby’s I know take communion more than Baptists of any stripe, which is rather ironic). Why do so many Baptists (and I’d add the large majority of Baptists in history) suddenly turn into paternalistic priests of Rome when they get to the Lord’s Table, practically issuing communion tokens in the process?
Oh, and by the way, if you’ll look through the comment thread, which is rather cantankerous (seems to follow on our blog with some of our commenters), one of them, a current SWBTS student has said, “One more point though I do not believe in the grammatico-historical method. i think it is flawed for some of the reasons you have cited. It is way to modern.”
That truly floored me.
Gene,
Both Steve’s thoughts, and yours, are highly thought-provoking. I appreciate both your mental horsepower and your hearts on this subject very much!
By the way, is this the same Steve Hays who is a former student of mine at Criswell? That Steve Hays popped up on Denny Burk’s blog in the comment stream shortly after the Convention in San Antonio.
Blessings, Boyd
It just occurred to me that the instructions about communion are for the individual, but some pastors and teachers think they’re instructions to the ministers as to what they are to do. If that’s the case, then the same thought process might well apply to other areas of the church.
Sunday School is about growing Christians, about discipleship. We count numbers but I don’t see anyone measuring discipleship.
I’ve heard pastors “complain” about low attendance on holiday weekends, but the plain fact is that the “church” is the same people when they’re at the beach as they are when they’re in the pews. Shouldn’t who and what they are be as important as where they are?
If there’s no objective measuring mechanism (for the church leadership’s use) of the spiritual condition of the membership every day, there sure isn’t one on the Sunday mornings we take communion.
Bob,
I agree on all counts. Does it scare you how often you and I agree on things?
Blessings, Boyd
Thanks Boyd. We have recently started a new church and one of the decisions we will have to make is one of affliation. I am not a big proponent of the independent church movement and believe in affliation or at least associtation. I am trying to get a handle on where the SBC is headed and what is really going on among those who are active behind the scenes. I don’t want affiliation to a distraction to either myself or the church body or have to ward off the “politicians” if there is another upheaval like we saw in the 90’s.
Morris,
Where are you located? The state convention related to the SBC could make a difference.
At this time of the year, what’s going on “behind the scenes” is not that big a factor. It becomes much bigger around Convention time, or the Exec. Committee is meeting and the like.
Blessings, Boyd
Steve is a graduate, I believe, of Oregon State (History & Philosophy as I recall). Don’t know if he popped over to Criswell after that. He’s at RTS now (Charleston, SC), I believe working on his Ph.D now. He T.A.’s, if my memory serves, for Dr. John Frame (out of Orlando, via the RTS virtual system which, I might add, we should strongly get the SBC to copy, as they can share faculty across all their campuses now) who has mentioned him in the footnotes of at least one his books (The Doctrine of God).
(Yeah, this guy is my “boss,” who’da thought; I just try to suck up what I can from him). If you had Steve you would know it – he spent a good part of his younger days (the time when most of us are in graduate school) battling cancer, so he went to school later in life.
He’s a, let me see if I can get this right, Welsh Methodist Presbutero-Bapterian who likes Lutheran worship styles.
Gene,
I don’t know enough about the Steve Hays’ background I mentioned to know if it is the same person. But, your description portrays a pretty amazing person.
Blessings, Boyd
Boyd,
I am here in Texas. In Midland.
Morris
Morris,
Something is wrong with the blog and I can’t get in to see your email address. But, I am aware of something going on behind the scenes that I will share with you, since you are in Texas–as soon as I get can get to the email.
Blessings, Boyd
My opinion (expressed several times in different blog comments) is that the signing of these “broad and man inspired” documents should not be required. I recognize that there have to be “standards” but I think that we have added a lot beyond reasonable standards. Thus (in an effort to make the repeated signings cease) I come down on the side of “if you sign it, you should believe it.” If we would stop signing things that we cannot fully defend and support, maybe the demand to sign would stop. [But I know it would be painful for a while.]
I think that we sign those documents like I sign the agreements that pop up when I install software. This is what I have to do to use the software and the problems that are mentioned in the small print are not likely to come up.
However, I often feel that those who claim to be inerrantists should have the same problem were they honest. But they deal with the problems by not addressing them. They pick the scriptures that support what they have chosen to believe and then discount the rest as being somehow inferior for some reason.
There are some differences that simply cannot be reconciled and must be lived with.
Bennett Willis
Bennett,
In the name of integrity, everyone should completely honest about their caveats. But, as I tried to show, it seems clear that a huge proportion of the CR, believing in closed communion, can’t sign the BFM2000 word-for-word and that anybody who really takes the Abstract of Principles seriously can’t sign the BFM2000 with a straight face–and vice versa.
What we have here is a great big hypocritical mess. The CR attempt to weed out whatever “liberals” remained by making the BFM2000 into a “creed” (as in a “creed” by any other name–read “confession” here for the SBC–is just as narrow) failed, because it has forced so much “winking” to sign it, even by some of its authors who either now, or in the past, have had to sign both the BFM and the Abstract.
Thanks for your comment,
Boyd