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		<title>By: Bennett Willis</title>
		<link>http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/a-timely-explanatory-word-plus-fridays-are-for-newspaper-articles/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennett Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,
I hate it when I have really labored over a reply and then it gets away.  It seems that it is always the really good ones that escape (no doubt due to divine mercy for the misinformed one being replied to) and I never do as good a job on the re-type.  I am currently doing my writing in Word.  (The spell check also helps.)  I just put all the comments in a common file.

The other thing that I am trying to do is to put the link to the comment (copy the date/time stamp from the blog, paste it into the Word file and it is a link to the comment) with the comment.  This lets me find where I put the thing and makes it easy to find out what a dummy I am--just click on the link and read what follows in the thread. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,<br />
I hate it when I have really labored over a reply and then it gets away.  It seems that it is always the really good ones that escape (no doubt due to divine mercy for the misinformed one being replied to) and I never do as good a job on the re-type.  I am currently doing my writing in Word.  (The spell check also helps.)  I just put all the comments in a common file.</p>
<p>The other thing that I am trying to do is to put the link to the comment (copy the date/time stamp from the blog, paste it into the Word file and it is a link to the comment) with the comment.  This lets me find where I put the thing and makes it easy to find out what a dummy I am&#8211;just click on the link and read what follows in the thread. </p>
<p>Bennett Willis</p>
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		<title>By: Colin McGahey</title>
		<link>http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/a-timely-explanatory-word-plus-fridays-are-for-newspaper-articles/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin McGahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cb,

I don&#039;t think you are understanding, though you may be.  Biblically speaking, I believe it is safe to say that it is NEVER right to air personal grievances over things that are *not sin.*  In this category we have 99% of what has been negatively written about specific leaders in the SBC.

Sin is a different matter.  Anonymity is a red herring as it pertains to this letter.  The issue is the substance of the charges: the charges themselves are gossip.

If we want to address personnel issues, the proper forum would be the convention or among the trustees.  If you want to address sin, address it into the public sphere that was influenced or directly affected by that sin.  The convention is a good starting place.  A seminary is another.  A blog, well, takes little effort and less courage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cb,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you are understanding, though you may be.  Biblically speaking, I believe it is safe to say that it is NEVER right to air personal grievances over things that are *not sin.*  In this category we have 99% of what has been negatively written about specific leaders in the SBC.</p>
<p>Sin is a different matter.  Anonymity is a red herring as it pertains to this letter.  The issue is the substance of the charges: the charges themselves are gossip.</p>
<p>If we want to address personnel issues, the proper forum would be the convention or among the trustees.  If you want to address sin, address it into the public sphere that was influenced or directly affected by that sin.  The convention is a good starting place.  A seminary is another.  A blog, well, takes little effort and less courage.</p>
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		<title>By: cb scott</title>
		<link>http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/a-timely-explanatory-word-plus-fridays-are-for-newspaper-articles/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>cb scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin,

Maybe I do not understand your point correctly.

If I am correct in my understanding I must ask; Why even have a meeting each year if we are not to deal with things in public? The SBC is not a local church.

cb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin,</p>
<p>Maybe I do not understand your point correctly.</p>
<p>If I am correct in my understanding I must ask; Why even have a meeting each year if we are not to deal with things in public? The SBC is not a local church.</p>
<p>cb</p>
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		<title>By: Colin McGahey</title>
		<link>http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/a-timely-explanatory-word-plus-fridays-are-for-newspaper-articles/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin McGahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cb and others,

I fail to see the difference in &quot;cringing&quot; over the posts of Rev. Cole and others and the &quot;cringing&quot; over this anonymous letter.  First and foremost, where are we mandated or  encouraged in Scripture to air grievances about a brother for issues that are not sin?  Second, public rebuke of sin: have we thought out the methods utilized to accomplish this task (blogs, secular newspapers, etc. vs. the convention)?  Third, does it truly matter whether or not these charges can be substantiated?

There was a brief exchange in a thread Peter mentioned of one commenter being taken to task for the refusal to back actions and words with scripture.  But there was no budge.  Why?  There can be the steadfast resolve to stand by one&#039;s own words, and it may be seen by the self as courage and conviction; yet it is certainly not the same as having the resolve to determine if Christ and Scripture stand by those words.

Our brothers in the community of faith not only see our growth in discipleship, but they also notice our sin.  Several godly men have condemned this behavior in no uncertain terms.  They echo the few bloggers that have been wrongly labeled &quot;establishment bloggers&quot; and who have been singing the same tune from the outset.  You cannot condemn one and merely cringe at the other.  Again, I refer you to the questions I began with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cb and others,</p>
<p>I fail to see the difference in &#8220;cringing&#8221; over the posts of Rev. Cole and others and the &#8220;cringing&#8221; over this anonymous letter.  First and foremost, where are we mandated or  encouraged in Scripture to air grievances about a brother for issues that are not sin?  Second, public rebuke of sin: have we thought out the methods utilized to accomplish this task (blogs, secular newspapers, etc. vs. the convention)?  Third, does it truly matter whether or not these charges can be substantiated?</p>
<p>There was a brief exchange in a thread Peter mentioned of one commenter being taken to task for the refusal to back actions and words with scripture.  But there was no budge.  Why?  There can be the steadfast resolve to stand by one&#8217;s own words, and it may be seen by the self as courage and conviction; yet it is certainly not the same as having the resolve to determine if Christ and Scripture stand by those words.</p>
<p>Our brothers in the community of faith not only see our growth in discipleship, but they also notice our sin.  Several godly men have condemned this behavior in no uncertain terms.  They echo the few bloggers that have been wrongly labeled &#8220;establishment bloggers&#8221; and who have been singing the same tune from the outset.  You cannot condemn one and merely cringe at the other.  Again, I refer you to the questions I began with.</p>
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		<title>By: cb scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

We shall do so and you may scorch the earth down here in Birmingham. It will not take much we have had so little rain thus far this summer.:-)

cb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>We shall do so and you may scorch the earth down here in Birmingham. It will not take much we have had so little rain thus far this summer.:-)</p>
<p>cb</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB,

I do not know what happened to my comment.  I left you a scorched earth doozy ;^)  And, I&#039;m too lazy to type it again.  

What if we get together in Birmingham in a couple weeks and I&#039;ll just tell it to you while you pour me a cup?

With that, I am...

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB,</p>
<p>I do not know what happened to my comment.  I left you a scorched earth doozy ;^)  And, I&#8217;m too lazy to type it again.  </p>
<p>What if we get together in Birmingham in a couple weeks and I&#8217;ll just tell it to you while you pour me a cup?</p>
<p>With that, I am&#8230;</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: kmichael</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I feel&quot; that the posting of this anonymous letter is poor journalism and a sad witness to the cause of Christ.  Does prayer no longer work?  Is Matthew 18 no longer a biblical principle in the SBC?  A well written letter to each trustee pouring out ones heart and soul will do more for the Kingdom than an accusatory, anonymous letter published for the whole of world to see.  
I plan on attending one of these seminaries in question in three more semesters and count on and expect the trustees and President to maintain a conservative, biblical learning environment...even if that does mean getting angry from time to time.

ihs,

kmichael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I feel&#8221; that the posting of this anonymous letter is poor journalism and a sad witness to the cause of Christ.  Does prayer no longer work?  Is Matthew 18 no longer a biblical principle in the SBC?  A well written letter to each trustee pouring out ones heart and soul will do more for the Kingdom than an accusatory, anonymous letter published for the whole of world to see.<br />
I plan on attending one of these seminaries in question in three more semesters and count on and expect the trustees and President to maintain a conservative, biblical learning environment&#8230;even if that does mean getting angry from time to time.</p>
<p>ihs,</p>
<p>kmichael</p>
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		<title>By: cb scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

I,ll take the bait if that is what it is. Of course, it may not be bait at all. If that is the case, I&#039;ll just make a statement anyway and see how it &quot;flys.&quot; 

I think the person Bob is in reference to is Ben Cole. If so, everything Ben Cole has posted is true. The way he presents information may, at times, make us all cringe, but it is true nonetheless. People do not like what he says, yet, no one can refute anything he has said as untrue.

It is the substance of those things he has said that should give us more concern that the nature or the motive of the messenger.

The anonymous professor gives a very valid testimony. The problem is he wasted his time and possibly his future by not signing his name to the letter. It is only a matter of time until he is known. Later he will work no more in the SBC. The problems he spoke of will still be present. He will be gone. The heads of many will still be in the sand. You and I will someday drink coffee together and debate the matters before us and still be comrades in the Faith. Life will go on it course toward finality in this world. You and I shall meet in the next and lay any worthy things from this life at the feet of Jesus.

cb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I,ll take the bait if that is what it is. Of course, it may not be bait at all. If that is the case, I&#8217;ll just make a statement anyway and see how it &#8220;flys.&#8221; </p>
<p>I think the person Bob is in reference to is Ben Cole. If so, everything Ben Cole has posted is true. The way he presents information may, at times, make us all cringe, but it is true nonetheless. People do not like what he says, yet, no one can refute anything he has said as untrue.</p>
<p>It is the substance of those things he has said that should give us more concern that the nature or the motive of the messenger.</p>
<p>The anonymous professor gives a very valid testimony. The problem is he wasted his time and possibly his future by not signing his name to the letter. It is only a matter of time until he is known. Later he will work no more in the SBC. The problems he spoke of will still be present. He will be gone. The heads of many will still be in the sand. You and I will someday drink coffee together and debate the matters before us and still be comrades in the Faith. Life will go on it course toward finality in this world. You and I shall meet in the next and lay any worthy things from this life at the feet of Jesus.</p>
<p>cb</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

If you are defending gossip, then I suggest to take a look at the recent thread at SBCTomorrow where our sister Debbie took that approach.  You mat think twice.

If you are not defending gossip, what is your point?  

With that, I am...

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>If you are defending gossip, then I suggest to take a look at the recent thread at SBCTomorrow where our sister Debbie took that approach.  You mat think twice.</p>
<p>If you are not defending gossip, what is your point?  </p>
<p>With that, I am&#8230;</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cleveland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: I know a certain young pastor who has verifiable, checkable documents, and trotted out a few for all to see. He was widely vilified for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: I know a certain young pastor who has verifiable, checkable documents, and trotted out a few for all to see. He was widely vilified for doing so.</p>
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