Comments on: Toward an SBC Reform ‘Platform’ (I): “A Contract with the Southern Baptist Convention?” http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/toward-an-sbc-reform-platform-i-a-contract-with-the-southern-baptist-convention/ Playing Nice While Blogging about Frustrating Issues Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:27:29 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Sam Creed http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/toward-an-sbc-reform-platform-i-a-contract-with-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-709 Sam Creed Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:36:50 +0000 http://boydluter.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/toward-an-sbc-reform-platform-i-a-contract-with-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-709 Boyd, As time has passed you have sewemed to refine each of the proposed reforms. However, Newt had an efficient delivery system for his Contract with America via cable news, talk shows, national press club, etc., etc. What is the delivery system for a SBC-wide delivery of the suggested reforms? Just within my own State Convention the cost of mail is daunting, the cost and time of scheduling regional information meetings for the purpose of lobbying for reforms, and just attending Pastor's Conferences (if that is even an option), is also daunting. Can this dissemination and lobbying be effectively done on the internet via e-mail, blogs, etc? Surely some funding would be needed. In another area, I noted several times the comparison between the so-called moderate (even liberal) leadership of past years and the current powerbrokers with regard to control. I wasn't as involved in Baptist life in those past years. I arrived at SWBTS in 1974 and really began to pick-up on talk about liberalism about that time. I was in the classroom with those who were eventually identified as being unacceptable liberal culprits. However, I did not hear derisive, denigerating words from these men about conservatives. Nor was I ever confused about a conservative or liberal theology. I knew where I stood. It seems to me that conservatives of this decade are not very compassionate. When these reforms are sown in the SBC marketplace to conservatives by consewrvatives, how can the sower be most compassionate. My Mom used to say, "You can catch more flys wsith honey than vinegar." Take care, Sam Sam, At this point, I have not even considered the need for a "delivery system." I've been concerned only about what needs to be delivered. However, it will get to that point fairly soon. So, your thoughts are important, but, since I have never done this sort of thing before, I've been taking it one step at a time. In regard to the tone of the dominatioin, from what I know, you are at least generally right. There may have been some surly, difficult "liberals." And, there definitely are some nice, kind leaders in today's dominating group. But, overall, it is fairly clear that the previous dominating group was more gracious in the way they ran the show. Blessings, Boyd Boyd,

As time has passed you have sewemed to refine each of the proposed reforms. However, Newt had an efficient delivery system for his Contract with America via cable news, talk shows, national press club, etc., etc. What is the delivery system for a SBC-wide delivery of the suggested reforms? Just within my own State Convention the cost of mail is daunting, the cost and time of scheduling regional information meetings for the purpose of lobbying for reforms, and just attending Pastor’s Conferences (if that is even an option), is also daunting. Can this dissemination and lobbying be effectively done on the internet via e-mail, blogs, etc? Surely some funding would be needed.

In another area, I noted several times the comparison between the so-called moderate (even liberal) leadership of past years and the current powerbrokers with regard to control. I wasn’t as involved in Baptist life in those past years. I arrived at SWBTS in 1974 and really began to pick-up on talk about liberalism about that time. I was in the classroom with those who were eventually identified as being unacceptable liberal culprits. However, I did not hear derisive, denigerating words from these men about conservatives. Nor was I ever confused about a conservative or liberal theology. I knew where I stood. It seems to me that conservatives of this decade are not very compassionate. When these reforms are sown in the SBC marketplace to conservatives by consewrvatives, how can the sower be most compassionate. My Mom used to say, “You can catch more flys wsith honey than vinegar.”

Take care,

Sam

Sam,

At this point, I have not even considered the need for a “delivery system.” I’ve been concerned only about what needs to be delivered. However, it will get to that point fairly soon. So, your thoughts are important, but, since I have never done this sort of thing before, I’ve been taking it one step at a time.

In regard to the tone of the dominatioin, from what I know, you are at least generally right. There may have been some surly, difficult “liberals.” And, there definitely are some nice, kind leaders in today’s dominating group. But, overall, it is fairly clear that the previous dominating group was more gracious in the way they ran the show.

Blessings, Boyd

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